Reverse Analysis (self)

[The Madcat]

Eh, not sure where else this would go ... ::shrug::

I need help. Doubt hath compelled me. Behold:

- not particularly social, but can become unhappy if forced to go without close friends for an extended period of time
- becomes nervous in large groups of people
- doesn't like strangers, but is not afraid to approach them
- highly intelligent
- good at figuring things and people out
- likes to be independent, but will work extremely well in (and might even prefer) a group of other intellectuals
- vocabulary might be considered 'out of the ordinary'
- usually keeps to self and isn't very talkative, but can get very vocal if lonely or complaining
- can be arrogant, but not without cause (ie: would not brag about something unless I knew I could back it up)
- very trustworthy, but not often trusted
- very athletic when it comes to individual sports (eg: skiing; horseback riding), or sports where I can work with a small group of friends or in a pair (eg: tennis), but hate team sports (eg: soccer; football)
- not perceived as being particular physical, but certainly fit
- stamina lacks something to be desired, but this won't stop me from simply running for the joy of it ^^;
- has been described by friends and self as a 'born second-in-command'; always seeks a position of power while following a respected authority at the same time
- belying the above trait - will gladly take up the position of leader if no one suitable steps up
- described by friends as 'fearless' ... unsure if this is true (XD); I have my fears but they are usually irrational and strange (eg: coming attractions in movie theatres make me panic)
- fiercely hierarchal; 'rank' people mentally and treat them accordingly
- always recognize a figure of authority, but don't always respect this authority
- my respect has to be earned; it is never given away lightly; respect very few people
- dislike young children and hate for them to act older or act better than their 'rank'
- often called 'lazy', but this is untrue; I simply work on my own schedule
- love sleep, but dislike to sleep in; would rather rise early than waste half the day
- have to know where my family and close friends are; one of the first things I say upon arriving home, if the answer is not made immediately obvious, is "Where is everybody?"
- not exactly efficient; require motivation and an enjoyment of the work before I could be called efficient
- work best with people similar to me; strangely, I am also most competitive around these people
- startlingly fierce; people don't usually expect the cold remarks that come from my mouth
- sense of humour is usually condescending, bitter and cynical, but can be ridiculous and self-deprecating around close friends
- like to keep intentions well hidden until the last moment; people have trouble figuring me out
- very good at remembering words and names, but poor memory for other things
- never described as 'clumsy', though I wouldn't call myself graceful either =P
- easily pick up new things
- good at handling arguments due to the ability to think on my feet and tolerate hurtful comments
- unafraid to rush into a confrontation, but will avoid it if I can
- will stand up to and even attack bullies if witnessing them picking on someone else (bullies rarely pick on me XP)
- called a 'jerk' more than any other insult, mainly due to the fact that if I can't tolerate a person, I will make sure they know
- finicky eater, but with a varied diet
- easy enough to live with; keep to myself and don't ask for much

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I hope that's enough. XD Now what I want you guys to do is forget about ALL of Pock's forms, and look at this with no bias whatsoever. Pretend it's for one of my friends or something. It'd really help me out if I could get your opinion. =D Cheers~

[brooke]

I think a smart kind of herding dog, but I'm not sure what type. Border collie DOES certainly fit, but a few things that threw me off were:
-" sense of humour is usually condescending, bitter and cynical, but can be ridiculous and self-deprecating around close friends"
- vocabulary might be considered 'out of the ordinary'" Couldn't you have come up with a bigger word for 'out of the ordinary', Miss Big-Vocabulary? *sblack person*
- can be arrogant, but not without cause
- like to keep intentions well hidden until the last moment; people have trouble figuring me out

Those comments make me think of some sort of fox. *shrug*

EDIT::Hahah. *sblackperson* That's great. The forum edited it. it was supposed to be...*sn-igger*

[The Madcat]

brooke said:

EDIT::Hahah. *sblackperson* That's great. The forum edited it. it was supposed to be...*sn-igger*

XD XDD

That's hilarious. Made me crack up.

brooke said:

Couldn't you have come up with a bigger word for 'out of the ordinary', Miss Big-Vocabulary?

XD Could have; was too lazy. XP

[Allene]

That's hilarious. "sblack person" XD

Arrooooga....I honestly couldn't say for sure what animal I think that would be...Many of those traits sound very much like myself. Especially the hierarchial-type things. I am a big rank-system person. You are kindof difficult to analyze anyway. You have to take into account the fact that you are a werewolf, and determine if some traits are caused by that or not. Or, determine if that matters at all. It could explain why the red fox fits me almost 100%, yet Rho is something totaly different from one (I am a werewolf too if anyone is confused about that).

Other than that, I'd say you do sound a lot like a fox. *tries thinking of other animals that could fit*

[Jo and Quallan]

You sound a lot like me. I was thinking some sort of dog at first, but some traits don't fit. I'm thinking a fox. Maybe a red fox? I'm not sure.

[Sil and Veil]

I thought red tailed hawk, but I always suggest the obscure forms no one really thinks of. ^^

[brooke]

I still say herding dog (just because of all the group things,as well as how well you get along with others and team sports and athleticism), but I also think fox because of reasons listed above. *shrug*

[The Madcat]

It's weird ... you can read the traits with a sheepdog in mind and see them fitting, then do the same thing with a fox. o.O Drat.

One thing, however, is that the analysis on Okibi's site describes a fox soul as being solitary and comfortable with that, and working best when alone. When I think of doing projects and stuff, I'd much rather be with a group of people like me who know what they're doing, than alone. >< That, I think, is more of a sheepdog trait. Farmers often keep more than one collie to help 'em round up the sheep.

@ Hannah: It's true the therianthropy could be influencing my personality, but it's not like I'm gonna seperate those traits from my 'true' ones. It's just who I am, and that's not gonna change. =D

@ Sil: I just went off and read the red-tailed hawk analysis, and wow! =O I'd call it 95% correct, if not more (I didn't understand one or two of the traits), even if it's a short analysis. XD I'd never read it fully before, and it even listed some of the traits I put in my reverse analysis (eg; thought to be fearless). That's amazing. You're good. =D I just don't think I could see Pock settling as a hawk ... ::tries to imagine a raptor dæmon singing:: XD Well, maybe we'll give that one a go. It's more convenient space-wise than a lion ... ::ponders::

Does anyone want to write up a [full] red-tailed hawk analysis? ^^; I can do it myself, but I'm feeling too lazy to research. =P

[okibi]

I could give the hawk analysis a shot, Cat, but it's hard doing in-depth analyses for raptors...

Hm. And I'd comment on the wolf soul being melded with her own and whatnot, but I've decided I don't believe in therianthropy. [shrug]

[The Madcat]

okibi said:

I could give the hawk analysis a shot, Cat, but it's hard doing in-depth analyses for raptors...[shrug]

I'd really appreciate that. =) You'd be the best suited for it anyway, I think. XD

BTW: If you read the reverse analysis - any opinion?

[Mie&Sequilaer]

I'm horrible at Analyses, so I'll leave that to the others.
Though I didn't know you were a therian! =D
I myself, am a kitsune otherkin.

What I did for myself was list the species on Okibi's lists that I thought suited me first, then counted all the facts..
Then counted all the facts that I thought were true, and put that as a fraction.
Then I cross-multiplied to get a percent..
And the highest percentage fit me, I decided.
Good luck on your Analyses though!

[dingobabe]

We have a lot of therian/otherkin on here. It must have some kind of relation to seeing daemons.

[The Madcat]

Well, therians/Otherkin are typically more spiritual and open-minded, aren't they? XD

[okibi]

It makes you more open-minded? You're saying this in a forum full of dæmians, whom many would consider mentally ill for the ideas they've accepted?

Anyway, maybe they're more simple-minded to believe they're something they aren't, to want so bad to be "unique." Most (99%) of the so-called therians I know only make reference to therianthropy to say they are therians. Even when I've known them for years, there's not a single account of their "inhuman" experiences. But still, they're sooo different from us normal people. =/ Of course.

The only convincing case I've come across was a dragoness Otherkin. She could explain the idiosyncracies of sharing her mind with a ferocious, blood-thirsty reptile in detail. The rage she was capable of... it was kind of scary. But because she was Otherkin - because of that inescapable animalistic side of her - she had toruble bonding with her dæmon, and it sounded like she wasn't even interested. This seems logical to me. The dragon in her wouldn't (didn't) have a dæmon -- it rejected that bond. She didn't feel she needed the dæmon, either, because the dragon mind was always there, like another person. Heck, I think as a consequence her dæmon was a lot like an animal, too, and didn't even speak. (Not to mention love was painful for her, because dragons don't love.)

Astra took it very seriously, and if therians were real, I think they'd all be that way... Not, "Hey I'm a therian, too! Coolies!"

I feel I'm spiritual enough by being Christian, and if accepting Rookie all those years ago doesn't make me open-minded, I dunno what does. I'm willing to consider any belief or concept, but when there proves to be no reasoning or proof behind it... I can't believe in it. But if anyone would like to try n' convince me otherwise, I wouldn't mind seeing a thread about it at the main forum.

[The Madcat]

It's very true that most people only think themselves therian to get attention. =\ If you'll recall Sabz, she was quite convinced that she was a wolf therian. Why? Because she loves werewolves, has a fascination for blood, feels the need to howl at the moon, etc.

Frankly too much blood makes me queasy and while the moon is certainly very pretty it doesn't affect me in any way. >>

The reason I don't go into my "inhuman experiences" is simple ... it makes me uncomfortable. Being therian is something I know and feel. I don't feel the need to have to prove it to anyone, so I don't. There's always sceptics who think therians are just omgcrazy, or - yeah, attention-seekers. I can put up with them, but why bother? I know what I am. Why do they have to know, too? =\

You could certainly ask me to describe these experiences, and I would tell you. But I'm not gonna start spoutin' all that on a public forum. Therianthropy is just ... a very personal connection, IMO. I doubt most of the genuine therians out there would want to share - unless with other therians, or unless you ask and they feel comfortable enough to explain. You never asked. =P

I'm not gonna try to convince you because I don't feel the need to. But if you do want to discuss it, sure. I'll post on a therianthropy board on the DF. But until I see one I don't see the point in continuing this.